[PLUG] Proposal for change from the current state of the list.

Navin Kabra navin at smriti.com
Wed Jan 23 12:48:53 IST 2013

Sudhanwa Jogalekar <sudhanwa.com at gmail.com> writes:

> Any new member joining the list will not get a moderation
> flag set.

-1. This does not make sense. New users should have moderation flag set
 until the first post gets approved or 1st month or something like
 that. Otherwise this list will get buried in spam.

> 2. All the current filters to be removed and started from scratch. Let
> us use the list of filters from Arun Khan's mail to start of the new
> filters list.

+1 to this if it means that the "Suspicious Headers" flag will go away.

> 3. Any change (add/delete/modify) of filter and add/remove moderation
> flag for a list member and removing of any list member is to be done
> by voting. 15 votes in favour of the proposal required for approval.
> (eg. 20 votes in favour and 5 negative votes is OK)

-1. This is unnecessarily democratic, and will just lead to overhead.

Here is what I suggest:

New members always moderated - without voting.
New members un-moderated after first approved post - without voting.
Moderating an existing list member - For obvious spam,
           based on moderator judgement.
           Identity and reason for ban to be posted on plug website.
Change of other flags: discussion on list followed by voting.

> 4. There will be moderator/s but they will act only once in a week.
> This is considering that there will be hardly anything in moderation
> and there will be less filters applicable. Moderators identities will not
> be disclosed.

Will not work.
With new members being auto-moderated, moderators will have to work
every day, but hopefully since they'll be un-moderated after first
post, the total volume should go down.

> 5. It is the responsibility of the list members to maintain the list
> active, vibrant and useful. If they feel that some member or post (top
> posting to be allowed or not?) is not appropriate, they should propose
> action against it and that will also be passed through voting.


> 7. All these decisions will be posted on the PLUG website and will be
> updated according to the decisions on the list.


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