From mayuresh at acm.org Sat Mar 2 05:37:05 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 19:07:05 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi broad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20130302133705.GA970@SDF.ORG> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:19:17PM +0530, ???? wrote: > Hi All, > I am planing to buy "Raspberry Pi" broad. I was thinking of the same. But postponed the plan for: - I wanted wifi to work and there are only certain USB dongles that are known to work. Trying to get one of them was yet another challenge along with getting Pi itself. - I wanted a device to have a vieo input, via USB so that I could use Pi for video streaming. Nothing much found on that. In theory, it should work, but no known devices as yet. - I was interested in running NetBSD on it, which is slowly getting ready for Pi. Of course, it's not as advanced or stable as Linux. (This is not such a hard and fast requirement. I'd be comfortable with Linux as well.) BTW, Raspberry Pi reached _1 million_ mark within 1 year and that's a great going. See this article: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/03/the-raspberry-pi-one-year-since-launch-one-million-sold/ Do post if someone has managed to get the device or have any comments on above points. Mayuresh From amoocool at gmail.com Sat Mar 2 07:51:36 2013 From: amoocool at gmail.com (amoocool) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 21:21:36 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi broad In-Reply-To: <20130302133705.GA970@SDF.ORG> References: <20130302133705.GA970@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: look at this one if it fits your bill. http://tenettech.com/product/2190/imx233-olinuxino-mini On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Mayuresh wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:19:17PM +0530, ???? wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am planing to buy "Raspberry Pi" broad. > > I was thinking of the same. But postponed the plan for: > > - I wanted wifi to work and there are only certain USB dongles that are > known to work. Trying to get one of them was yet another challenge along > with getting Pi itself. > > - I wanted a device to have a vieo input, via USB so that I could use Pi > for video streaming. Nothing much found on that. In theory, it should > work, but no known devices as yet. > > - I was interested in running NetBSD on it, which is slowly getting ready > for Pi. Of course, it's not as advanced or stable as Linux. (This is not > such a hard and fast requirement. I'd be comfortable with Linux as > well.) > > > BTW, Raspberry Pi reached _1 million_ mark within 1 year and that's a > great going. See this article: > > > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/03/the-raspberry-pi-one-year-since-launch-one-million-sold/ > > > Do post if someone has managed to get the device or have any comments on > above points. > > Mayuresh > > _______________________________________ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List > From o.s.h.o at guruvision.com Sun Mar 3 01:14:39 2013 From: o.s.h.o at guruvision.com (=?utf-8?B?4KSuLuCkueCkvi7gpLjgpL4u4KSXLuCksA==?=) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:44:39 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Kernel Talks / Canceled [02-Mar-2013] / Refactor Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3522805.dlWdzS8mJP@touchmidas> On Friday 01 Mar 2013 12:13:26 PM Sunil Beta Baskar wrote: > PS: Cross posting on PLUG as well as PLUG-unmoderated You may call it as ... PS: Cross posting on PLUG as well as PLUG-unGoderated... and then think of it in terms of The God factor called ignusious etc. etc... Just makes it more hilarious, isn't it??? From shakthimaan at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 03:07:55 2013 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:37:55 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [Event Report] Fedora OpenStack, P.E.S. College of Engineering, Aurangabad, India, March 2, 2013 Message-ID: Hi, I had organized a Fedora and OpenStack [1] workshop at P.E.S. College of Engineering [2], Nagsen Vana, Aurangabad, Maharashtra on Saturday, March 2, 2013. After a formal inauguration at 1000 IST, I introduced the students to communication guidelines, mailing list etiquette, and project guidelines using the "i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do" presentation [3]. The different Fedora sub-projects [4] to which they can contribute to were mentioned. I showed the various free/open source software tools available for them to learn and use. The career options with free/open source software were also discussed. I had asked them to write down any questions they had on the forenoon session, so I could answer them in the afternoon session. Few of their questions: * If I do a project in Java, what are my career options? * What is the difference between open source and Microsoft? * Is Linux popular only because of security, or are there other reasons too? * I am interested in mainframes. How should I learn? * I am interested in a career in animation. What free/open source software can I use? * What are the steps to become a good software engineer? * Can I patent a software product? Post-lunch, I answered their queries in the Q&A session, to the best of my knowledge. I also gave them an introduction on copyright, trademark and patents, and mentioned that IANAL [5]. I then introduced them to the architecture of OpenStack, explaining the individual components, and their functionality. The OpenStack Lab Guide [6] was provided to them to setup their own OpenStack cloud. Some of them had brought their laptops to try it hands-on. I demonstrated the Horizon web interface after starting the required services. All their computer labs have been migrated to Fedora 17. Thanks to Prof. Nitin Ujgare for working with me in organizing this workshop, and for maintaining the Fedora labs at the Institute. Aurangabad is around 230 km from Pune, and takes around 4 1/2 hours by road. There are frequent bus services between Pune and Aurangabad. You can book bus tickets at Maharashtra State Road Transport Corporation (MSRTC) [7] web site. There are a number of historic places to visit in and around Aurangabad. Few photos taken during the trip are available in my /gallery [8]. Regards, SK [1] Fedora OpenStack. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStack [2] P. E. S. College of Engineering, Nagsen Vana, Aurangabad. http://www.pescoe.ac.in/ [3] i-want-2-do-project. tell-me-wat-2-do. http://shakthimaan.com/downloads.html#i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do [4] Fedora sub-projects. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Projects [5] IANAL. I Am Not A Lawyer. [6] OpenStack Lab Guide. http://fedorapeople.org/~russellb/openstack-lab-rhsummit-2012/index.html [7] Maharashtra State Road Transport Corporation. http://www.msrtc.gov.in/msrtc_live/index.html [8] Photos. http://www.shakthimaan.com/Mambo/gallery/album88 -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From mayuresh at acm.org Mon Mar 4 08:31:57 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:01:57 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune Message-ID: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. Their website doesn't seem to have this plan though. I am actually looking for an ISP with reliable connection with no downtime. Not so much interested in such a high speed. Looking for feedback if someone has used this ISP. Mayuresh From sudhanwa.com at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 10:39:11 2013 From: sudhanwa.com at gmail.com (Sudhanwa Jogalekar) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 00:09:11 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Mayuresh wrote: > Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection > for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. > > Their website doesn't seem to have this plan though. > > I am actually looking for an ISP with reliable connection with no > downtime. Not so much interested in such a high speed. > > Looking for feedback if someone has used this ISP. This is one of the worst ISPs. Don't even think of going for it.(even if they give you free of cost service) They are technically useless. Do not understand very basics of connectivity, ping responses, traceroutes etc. I had a major issue with them about the connectivity on their committed speeds and actual throughput. In daytime, ping to my website was normal but in night time (my regular package), it was 4 times slower. I had mail exchange with their support people that is easily some 10-15 pages without any positive outcome from their side. This is apart from many visits to their office. Additionally, even after disconnection, they are not even bothered to remove their cable and clean up the mess. And you get bonus harassment of flooding your mobile with various SMS. Regards -Sudhanwa ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. From vikas at techqual.com Mon Mar 4 20:43:23 2013 From: vikas at techqual.com (Vikas Damodar Garud) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:13:23 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <201303051013.24040.vikas@techqual.com> On Monday 04 Mar 2013 10:01:57 PM Mayuresh wrote: > Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection > for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. > > Their website doesn't seem to have this plan though. > > I am actually looking for an ISP with reliable connection with no > downtime. Not so much interested in such a high speed. > > Looking for feedback if someone has used this ISP. I had poor experience. I tried this for three months period (So called hurricane pack) about 6 months back. My experiences: 1. There was supposed to be a free gift - usb drive/headphone set - for online booking. It never came and my mails and calls remained unanswered. 2. The speed was supposed to be 12 MBPS. It never went beyond 5 MBPS. Usually hovered around 3-3.5 MBPS. Measured on bandwidthplace.com and speedtest.net. Complaint mails remained unanswered and calls did not provide any help. 3. The connection stopped working two days before expiry date. I'm flooded with reconnection mails and phones. However, There is no response to mails and complaint calls do not yield any answers. These are too trivial for Consumer forum :-( The only thing in support, the connection did not fail any time during the three month period. But, I've BSNL dataone connection for last 6/7 years and it failed only two times during this period and the call centre directed me to technical team and the connection was restored fairly quickly (about a day). My experience with BSNL is good - though the speeds are limited. (My connection is for 512 KBPS and I routinely get this speed.) HTH Vikas Garud From knura9 at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 21:45:17 2013 From: knura9 at gmail.com (Arun Khan) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:15:17 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Mayuresh wrote: > Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection > for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. Is sure is a very tempting offer isn't it? They advertise in Mumbai Mirror regularly. I wish they would spend the money in delighting the customer. Back in early 2005, the dawn of the 'broadband' era in India, YOU was the only vendor in my neighborhood offering BB. I seldom got the advertised speed of 256Kbps and on Sundays it was worse than dial up speed. I switched to MTNL @ 256Kbps when they were ready with ADSL infra for my neighborhood. > > I am actually looking for an ISP with reliable connection with no > downtime. Not so much interested in such a high speed. 'no downtime' (i.e. SLA with 100% up time) is a very high expectation. You will not get that with a leased line and *definitely* *not* with consumer grade ADSL service. Plan for redundancy if you want 100% up time. I have MTNL and Tata Indicom ADSL service for this reason. So far I have been lucky that both of them have not been out of service @ same time. -- Arun Khan From mayuresh at acm.org Mon Mar 4 22:06:05 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:36:05 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <20130305060605.GA13551@SDF.ORG> On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 11:15:17AM +0530, Arun Khan wrote: > 'no downtime' (i.e. SLA with 100% up time) is a very high expectation. > You will not get that with a leased line and *definitely* *not* with > consumer grade ADSL service. > > Plan for redundancy if you want 100% up time. > > I have MTNL and Tata Indicom ADSL service for this reason. So far I > have been lucky that both of them have not been out of service @ same > time. I have Tata Indicom and BSNL 3G as a backup for outage duration. I am not sure about 100%, but Tata Indicom has been pretty smooth for me for over a decade (from being erstwhile dishnet and then vsnl and so on). (Some would say I was just lucky. So be it...) Recently there have been issues of intermittent downtimes, sometimes wiring level, sometimes at the backend level. So was thinking of alternatives. Probably captioned one is not even worth a try. Mayuresh From ajax7877 at gmail.com Sat Mar 2 21:35:48 2013 From: ajax7877 at gmail.com (ajax7877 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 05:35:48 +0000 Subject: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi broad In-Reply-To: References: <20130302133705.GA970@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: i think this link will help you . http://in.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/raspberry-pi-type-b/7568308.aspx From gaurav291 at gmail.com Sat Mar 2 20:23:08 2013 From: gaurav291 at gmail.com (gauravs joshi) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 09:53:08 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi broad (Gaurav Joshi) Message-ID: check out this site good for buying raspberry pi in india http://in.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/raspberry-pi-type-b/7568308.aspx From girishvg at yahoo.com Sun Mar 3 01:40:47 2013 From: girishvg at yahoo.com (girish gulawani) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:40:47 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [PLUG] [COMMERCIAL] looking for Kernel Development expert In-Reply-To: <1361939345.25274.YahooMailNeo@web193805.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References: <1361939345.25274.YahooMailNeo@web193805.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1362303647.46467.YahooMailNeo@web193806.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> we are a start-up based in bangalore and?looking for kernel development experts -- ? ? .1 two positions. 5-15 years of pure kernel programming experience ? ? .2 any Unix/Linux kernel expertise ? ? .3 any RISC architecture (MIPS, SPARC64, PowerPC, ARM64) processor knowledge ? ? .4 experience on high performance platforms (SMP/Multicore, NUMA) ? ? .5 programming device drivers, filesystems or networking stacks ?background is definite plus please email your resume to: girish at sanctumnetworks.com thanks. girish. From rravishankar at mail.com Mon Mar 4 22:21:00 2013 From: rravishankar at mail.com (Ravishankar Rajagopalan) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:51:00 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <51358ECC.7020008@mail.com> Mayuresh wrote: > Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection > for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. > > Their website doesn't seem to have this plan though. > > I am actually looking for an ISP with reliable connection with no > downtime. Not so much interested in such a high speed. > > Looking for feedback if someone has used this ISP. > > Mayuresh > > _______________________________________ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List Have been using Airtel broadband for more than 2 years now in Aundh, I found their services reliable and speedtest.net matched advertised speed. It's rare that their connection goes down (BSNL 3G is my backup but it's hardly used) - they seem to be responsive and responsible people in this business. Ravi From rajuvindane at gmail.com Sat Mar 2 22:42:12 2013 From: rajuvindane at gmail.com (Raju D. Vindane) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:12:12 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5132F0C4.6020708@gmail.com> On Thursday 28 February 2013 01:51 PM, Prasad Mhatre wrote: > Respected sir, > hello sir,I am Prasad mhatre second year engg. student > studying in Raisoni college,pune.I want to participate in FOSS > community.sir , I want to know whether can i attend the FOSS meeting on 4th > march 2013. > Thanking you, > > yours faithfully, > > prasad mhatre > _______________________________________ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List Hi Prasad, This is Raju a PLUG member. You are always welcome in any FOSS Community activities. I am not aware of any meeting scheduled on 4th March. If you do know about the event then do attend it, the people there will welcome you. FOSS community always welcomes newbies to the group. Talking about me I live near Raisoni College of Engineering, If you want any kind of help you can always come to my place near Raisoni College. "Welcome to the community" Regards, Raju D. Vindane +919096331084 From manoj.aswani1990 at gmail.com Mon Mar 4 09:43:39 2013 From: manoj.aswani1990 at gmail.com (Manoj Aswani) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 23:13:39 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: > Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection > for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. > > Their website doesn't seem to have this plan though. > > I am actually looking for an ISP with reliable connection with no > downtime. Not so much interested in such a high speed. > > Looking for feedback if someone has used this ISP. > > Mayuresh > > I live in Model Colony, Shivajinagar. In my area the given ISP has got excellent reliability and service too. I am also planning for same. I am told 675/- pm for 1mbps connection -- *Manoj Aswani MBA IT 2012-14 Baroda --> Pune.* From amoocool at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 10:54:33 2013 From: amoocool at gmail.com (amoocool) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 00:24:33 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: You Broadband is really bad in term of reliability. I was on 12Mbps plan. Never got 12Mbps for more than 2 days in row. the download speed will go as low as 300kbps and they dont compensate for your loss unless the connection is totally down for more than 24hrs which never happens. They will just keep the connection alive with anything from 3mbps to 20kbps. So if you are heavy user/very dependent on internet dont even bother. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Manoj Aswani wrote: > > Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection > > for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. > > > > Their website doesn't seem to have this plan though. > > > > I am actually looking for an ISP with reliable connection with no > > downtime. Not so much interested in such a high speed. > > > > Looking for feedback if someone has used this ISP. > > > > Mayuresh > > > > > I live in Model Colony, Shivajinagar. In my area the given ISP has got > excellent reliability and service too. I am also planning for same. I am > told 675/- pm for 1mbps connection > > -- > *Manoj Aswani > MBA IT 2012-14 > Baroda --> Pune.* > _______________________________________ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List > From devendralaulkar at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 15:31:51 2013 From: devendralaulkar at gmail.com (Devendra Laulkar) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:31:51 -0800 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: Hi, On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Mayuresh wrote: > Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection > for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. > I had dealt with them in 2006-2007 - Extremely unprofessional - They used to be known as Iqara broadband if I remember correctly. Also, check if they are giving you a "public" ip address or if they are using NAT + putting you behind a proxy. I think Sify and You broadband used to do this / are still doing this. Cheers, Devendra. -- May the Source be with you. From amitkarpe at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 20:57:31 2013 From: amitkarpe at gmail.com (Amit Karpe) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 12:57:31 +0800 Subject: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi broad In-Reply-To: References: <20130302133705.GA970@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM, ajax7877 at gmail.com wrote: > i think this link will help you . > > > http://in.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/raspberry-pi-type-b/7568308.aspx > > _______________________________________ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List > Try following links: I found many forum member on raspberrypi.org have received their boards. http://downloads.element14.com/raspberryPi3.html?isRedirect=true http://tenettech.com/product/2182/raspberry-pi-kit or http://tenettech.com/product/2184/raspberry-pi Please share your experience with Raspberry Pi. -- Regards Amit Karpe. http://www.amitkarpe.com/ http://news.karpe.net.in/ From knura9 at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 21:52:29 2013 From: knura9 at gmail.com (Arun Khan) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 11:22:29 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Devendra Laulkar wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Mayuresh wrote: > >> Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection >> for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. >> > > I had dealt with them in 2006-2007 - Extremely unprofessional - They used > to be known as Iqara broadband if I remember correctly. Yeah, Iqara was the original name; I could not recollect the name. > Also, check if they are giving you a "public" ip address or if they are > using NAT + putting you behind a proxy. I think Sify and You broadband used > to do this / are still doing this. When I had their service, I used to get a public IP. @ Consumer level, I think the DSL service providers are the most consistent on the speed aspect. -- Arun Khan From o.s.h.o at guruvision.com Wed Mar 6 03:49:40 2013 From: o.s.h.o at guruvision.com (=?utf-8?B?4KSuLuCkueCkvi7gpLjgpL4u4KSXLuCksA==?=) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:19:40 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <1617092.mp22117Mnl@touchmidas> On Wednesday 06 Mar 2013 11:22:29 AM Arun Khan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Devendra Laulkar > Yeah, Iqara was the original name; I could not recollect the name. Pardon the ignorential bliss, but the sen-10-se would be... Yeah, Iqara was the original **name**; I could not recollect the **same**. From indlinux at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 00:07:29 2013 From: indlinux at gmail.com (G Karunakar) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 13:37:29 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi broad In-Reply-To: References: <20130302133705.GA970@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Amit Karpe wrote: > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM, ajax7877 at gmail.com wrote: > >> i think this link will help you . >> >> >> http://in.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/raspberry-pi-type-b/7568308.aspx >> >> _______________________________________ >> Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List >> > > Try following links: > I found many forum member on raspberrypi.org have received their boards. > http://downloads.element14.com/raspberryPi3.html?isRedirect=true > http://tenettech.com/product/2182/raspberry-pi-kit > or > http://tenettech.com/product/2184/raspberry-pi > > Please share your experience with Raspberry Pi. > Didnt buy from above site but got it through friend coming from UK (ordered on farnell not much price diff. but just got it quicker). accessories would cost as much as Pi itself, so dont fall in for low price. But its a neat board with all required stuff, along with an ardunio kit you can do lot more. I merely loaded it up, and tried it through VNC, have been thinking to use it as media player (usb, usb hdd, ext dvdrom) , instead buying a DVD player :P Amit - since you had experience with other boards before, you could share from specs which is better. Karunakar From pravi.a at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 00:55:59 2013 From: pravi.a at gmail.com (Praveen A) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:25:59 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi broad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2013/2/27 ???? : > Hi All, > I am planing to buy "Raspberry Pi" broad. > Is any buddy know the official distributor of it in India. > I heard that, there is one company in Bangalore, official distributer of > the board. > I google it but didn't get any link. > Is any body have any idea. I bought 2 Raspberry Pi boards from RS components in UK (http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=raspberrypi). You may also try this http://export.farnell.com/rp/order/index.html?region=apac some of my friends ordered it from them. You can also order from Kits n Spares in Bangalore. http://shopping.kitsnspares.com/bon1/productdescription.asp?id=482662 We use it to teach basic computers to women in Pandav Nagar (see http://wiki.pirateparty.org.in/index.php?title=Pirate_Computing_Center for more). We had demoed it at GNUnify and at GMRT during Science Day last week. If you want to try it out, come down to Pandav Nagar on any Saturday. Please coordinate with me offlist. -- ???????? ??????????????????? You have to keep reminding your government that you don't get your rights from them; you give them permission to rule, only so long as they follow the rules: laws and constitution. From sgr.m.pdy at gmail.com Wed Mar 6 22:50:42 2013 From: sgr.m.pdy at gmail.com (Sagar Padhye) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:20:42 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] kernel module compilation Message-ID: Hi, I am trying to learn linux kernel module programming using this document : http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/index.html I came upto exercise of passing command line arguments to module (2.6), where I am getting following error when used "MODULE_PARAM_DESC" macro: hello-5.c:47: error: expected ?)? before string constant I have to admit, I am a not so good with Makefiles & C (macros), I am C++/scons guy. So need some help to resolve this. Note : If I remove the use of this macro, rest of the program purpose is satisfied. I have kept my code, makefile & error log at http://ubuntuone.com/3rzokSrMzpOUgOIEpKOdhD OS : Ubuntu 10.04 Kernel : 2.6.32.60 - not from ubunutu repo, compile my own (needed to disable modversioning as asked by exercise) Thanks and Regards, Sagar From tomar.arun at gmail.com Tue Mar 5 03:41:43 2013 From: tomar.arun at gmail.com (Arun Tomar) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:11:43 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <51358ECC.7020008@mail.com> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> <51358ECC.7020008@mail.com> Message-ID: <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> On 03/05/2013 11:51 AM, Ravishankar Rajagopalan wrote: > Mayuresh wrote: >> Saw a big advertisements in newspapers today for 50MBPS/50GB connection >> for around 2000/- pm by above ISP. >> >> Their website doesn't seem to have this plan though. >> >> I am actually looking for an ISP with reliable connection with no >> downtime. Not so much interested in such a high speed. >> >> Looking for feedback if someone has used this ISP. >> >> Mayuresh Have been using Airtel broadband for more than 2 years now >> in Aundh, I found their services reliable and speedtest.net matched >> advertised speed. It's rare that their connection goes down (BSNL 3G >> is my backup but it's hardly used) - they seem to be responsive and >> responsible people in this business. > > Ravi > > Hi! I've mostly used all the ISP's in Pune. below are some facts and my experiences with them. I"m a very heavy user of internet. Plz note, i'm stating my personal experiences and opinions about the broadband services provided by these ISP's. FUP => Fair usage policy. The good: Currently I have 3 connections: Tata communications : (384 kbps) using it for the past 5+ years. good connection. Ony problem is that they have some device called DSLAM installed on the top of the building, and it goes down during power cuts in the area, as the battery backup is very less, resulting in downtime. or if some other area on the supply chain is facing issue, then also you might face downtime. FUP is applicable, but they don't cut the speed. they'll call to upgrade the plan though. So as a redundancy, I took up BSNL: (512 kbps) Till the time it works, it works great. if there is a technical problem, call the support no. is it gets fixed. that way service is good, i guess, might be because they have outsourced it. anyways, if there is a cable cut or some other problem, you can forget about when it's going to start back. i had a 3 month downtime, b'cas of some road digging issue, and the technicians could not figure out. and i was getting billed, which they didn't refund. finally when i went to cut the connection, the branch manager assured me that he'll get it fixed, and he did. Meanwhile, when my BSNL was down, i took up TTML: (2 mbps) works great. good uptime. reliable connection. recently they have come up with a truely unlimited plan where there is no FUP. The bad and ugly: 1. Reliance: ADSL , FUP Gives a dynamic ip. Used to flash a user login page, evertime the internet connection was reconnected for whatever reason. It was pathetic, b'cas if you try to use on lan of say 20 people, you'll never know, who'll get that login page, and if you just close it etc.. then you can't access the internet, unless that page pops up again. used to disconnect a lot. 2. Hathway: Cable, FUP Works on cable modem. Have a mac binding issue. if you try to replace the router, you've to call the call center and ask them to reset the mac address, till then it won't work. 3. You broadband : Some wireless tech. won't give connection inspite of taking your application and money. Used to be very pathetic both the sales, service and customer support. I've heard good things now about them from few clients, who are using You broadband. I asked for a new connection, this time they told me, that as my location was not currently feasible they won't be able to provide the same. good, atleast they were upfront this time. 4. Airtel: haven't used personally, as they don't provide service at my location. I've heard that it hardly goes down. But the FUP is pathetic. they'll cut down the bandwidth to 128 kbps after FUP no matter what your plan is. In my opinion: 1. Internet connection reliability is location dependent. 2. On field technical staff of most of the ISP's don't know about nat, port forwarding etc. If they see linux on a machine, they'll faint or run away. I had to ask people to show me a working connection on a windows machine, and i'll get it to run on linux. 3. if you are running linux, the famous quote is " sir, it's a linux problem ;) ". Lastly, I use all my internet connections simultaneously (aggregating the througput) with load balancing and failover, using our product called ISPunity. we released it as opensource so anyone can use it. only catch, it only runs on linux. We are redesigning the app, so that it can run on a Virtual machine like virtual box or vmware workstation etc. so that even people those who don't have linux as the base machine, but still want to use all their net connection, can use it. I hope this helps. mail me, if you have any queries. Regards, Arun. From shakthimaan at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 01:39:31 2013 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:09:31 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] kernel module compilation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, --- On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Sagar Padhye wrote: | I am trying to learn linux kernel module programming using this document : | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/index.html \-- Can you try these examples? http://shakthimaan.com/downloads.html#linux-device-driver-programming-code-examples SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From o.s.h.o at guruvision.com Fri Mar 8 09:29:40 2013 From: o.s.h.o at guruvision.com (=?utf-8?B?4KSuLuCkueCkvi7gpLjgpL4u4KSXLuCksA==?=) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 22:59:40 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> <51358ECC.7020008@mail.com> <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1774794.COf10EE7D1@touchmidas> On Tuesday 05 Mar 2013 5:11:43 PM Arun Tomar wrote: The way you posted a response can be way to think for others of how to answer when a question falls in your zone, without being a pushy sales person This is not to blame others but your response was narrative enough to educate me, a usual bystander, a novice in this technology field to make sense of possible problems with connectivity solutions... From darth.chatri at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 11:00:26 2013 From: darth.chatri at gmail.com (darth.chatri at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 00:30:26 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> <51358ECC.7020008@mail.com> <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6CDF633E-8823-4C50-AB16-0340AD54C873@gmail.com> On 05-Mar-2013, at 5:11 PM, Arun Tomar wrote: > Tata communications : (384 kbps) using it for the past 5+ years. good connection. > Ony problem is that they have some device called DSLAM installed on the top of the building, and it goes down during power cuts in the area, as the battery backup is very less, resulting in downtime. or if some other area on the supply chain is facing issue, then also you might face downtime. FUP is applicable, but they don't cut the speed. they'll call to upgrade the plan though. > They have by far the worst customer support I have come across for any ISP. Actually they have the worst customer support I have ever come across. They will do anything they can to resolve and close you ticket within 48 hours. Please note, I did not say they will solve your problem. But they will definitely close your ticket. > 4. Airtel: haven't used personally, as they don't provide service at my location. I've heard that it hardly goes down. But the FUP is pathetic. they'll cut down the bandwidth to 128 kbps after FUP no matter what your plan is. Along with BSNL, they have the most reliable connection I have come across. Their tech support people actually understand enough networking that I could have a conversation with them about my router config without feeling the urge to bang my head against the wall. I quite satisfied Airtel broadband. -d From pshah.mumbai at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 02:47:23 2013 From: pshah.mumbai at gmail.com (Prashant Shah) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 16:17:23 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] kernel module compilation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > --- On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Sagar Padhye wrote: > | I am trying to learn linux kernel module programming using this document : > | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/index.html > \-- try http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ From sgr.m.pdy at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 07:02:08 2013 From: sgr.m.pdy at gmail.com (Sagar Padhye) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 20:32:08 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] kernel module compilation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5139FD70.3020108@gmail.com> On 03/08/2013 03:09 PM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > --- On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Sagar Padhye wrote: > | I am trying to learn linux kernel module programming using this document : > | http://www.tldp.org/LDP/lkmpg/2.6/html/index.html > \-- > > Can you try these examples? > > http://shakthimaan.com/downloads.html#linux-device-driver-programming-code-examples > > SK > Great examples, will surly try 'em out. BTW found the fix for my question on unmoderated list. Had an extra 'A' (it should be MODULE_PARM_DESC not MODULE_PARAM_DESC) - stupid mistake. From sgr.m.pdy at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 23:44:07 2013 From: sgr.m.pdy at gmail.com (Sagar Padhye) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:14:07 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Compiling my driver into kernel statically. Message-ID: Hi I have successfully created a dummy procfile with read/write calls. I know this is old way of coding & I should use sysfs, but still I did it. When I compile this thing as module it works fine - proc file is created, read & write works. Then I thought of playing around a bit - I kept my code in linux-x.x.x/drivers/sagar dir. Added an entry - > obj-y += sagar/ to makefile of drivers dir. Added following makefile to drivers/sagar dir -> $ car /path/to/linux/src/drivers/sagar/Makefile obj-y += procfs-2.o $ compiled linux the usual way -> clean, mrproper, bzImage, modules, modules_install, copy bzImage to /boot & update-grub (ubuntu) and rebooted into new kernel. It looks like, the /proc file I was expecting is not created, so I think init_module is not called when we link the code statically to the kernel - I thought this function would be called by the `init` process. But looks like my assumption was wrong. I got none of my printk (INFO) logs in dmesg just after startup. When I do cat /proc/kallsyms , I can find my variables & functions in there as follows ... ffffffff81436800 T cleanup_module ffffffff81436830 T init_module ffffffff814368d0 T procfile_write ffffffff81436910 T procfile_read ... ffffffff819e22c0 b procfs_buffer_size ffffffff819e22c8 b my_proc_file ffffffff819e22e0 b procfs_buffer ... Still the /proc file I was expecting is not there. Can somebody point me to right ans? Kernel used - 2.6.32.60 Note : I have started reading 'http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/' as pointed by Prashant, but I am just dying to get this working. :P From kirandivekar at gmail.com Fri Mar 15 05:31:08 2013 From: kirandivekar at gmail.com (Kiran Divekar) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:01:08 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Compiling my driver into kernel statically. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Sagar Padhye wrote: > Hi > Hi, > I have successfully created a dummy procfile with read/write calls. I know > this is old way of coding & I should use sysfs, but still I did it. > When I compile this thing as module it works fine - proc file is created, > read & write works. > Then I thought of playing around a bit - I kept my code in > linux-x.x.x/drivers/sagar dir. Added an entry - > > obj-y += sagar/ > to makefile of drivers dir. Added following makefile to drivers/sagar dir > -> > $ car /path/to/linux/src/drivers/sagar/Makefile > obj-y += procfs-2.o > $ > > compiled linux the usual way -> clean, mrproper, bzImage, modules, > modules_install, copy bzImage to /boot & update-grub (ubuntu) and rebooted > into new kernel. > > It looks like, the /proc file I was expecting is not created, so I think > init_module is not called when we link the code statically to the kernel - > I thought this function would be called by the `init` process. But looks > like my assumption was wrong. I got none of my printk (INFO) logs in dmesg > just after startup. > > When I do cat /proc/kallsyms , I can find my variables & functions in there > as follows > ... > ffffffff81436800 T cleanup_module > ffffffff81436830 T init_module > ffffffff814368d0 T procfile_write > ffffffff81436910 T procfile_read > > ... > ffffffff819e22c0 b procfs_buffer_size > ffffffff819e22c8 b my_proc_file > ffffffff819e22e0 b procfs_buffer > ... > > Still the /proc file I was expecting is not there. Can somebody point me to > right ans? > > First check if your module is able to create a file in /proc, by loading it dynamically. module_init for all built-in kernle modules get called during kernel initialization....see thread here for more understanding.... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10368837/how-does-linux-determine-the-order-of-module-init-calls - Kiran > Kernel used - 2.6.32.60 > > Note : I have started reading 'http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/' as pointed by > Prashant, but I am just dying to get this working. :P > _______________________________________ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List > From shahidfarooqui at gmail.com Sat Mar 16 00:16:24 2013 From: shahidfarooqui at gmail.com (Shahid Farooqui) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 12:46:24 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Reviewer for tutorials Joomla and gChemPaint (proprietary equivalent is ChemDraw) Message-ID: Dear Friends, Greetings from Spoken Tutorial Project at IIT Bombay. The Spoken Tutorial project is the initiative of the "Talk to a Teacher" project of the National Mission on Education through Information Communication through Technology, launched by MHRD, Govt of India. Spoken Tutorials team creates tutorial on various Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) in various Indian regional languages. Please visit http://www.spoken-tutorial.org for more details. We are looking for a reviewer to review the outline, scripts and video tutorials on gChemPaint (proprietary equivalent is ChemDraw) and Joomla (CMS). Reviewer should be either a faculty member of an institution/university or a person with 2-3 years of working experience in gChemPaint (proprietary equivalent is ChemDraw) and Joomla (CMS). A reasonable honorarium will be paid to the reviewer. Those who are interested, please get back to us at the earliest. Thanks & Regards Shahid Farooqui From mayuresh at acm.org Sat Mar 16 07:39:17 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 20:09:17 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> <51358ECC.7020008@mail.com> <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20130316143917.GA25572@SDF.ORG> On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 05:11:43PM +0530, Arun Tomar wrote: > Meanwhile, when my BSNL was down, i took up > TTML: (2 mbps) works great. good uptime. reliable connection. > recently they have come up with a truely unlimited plan where there > is no FUP. For majority of my several years of usage of Tata Indicom connection I had good experience of uptime, speed and reliability. There have been times some service issues needed escalation and a lot of patience, though they were eventually resolved. For last week or so the connection is either going down or is working at very slow speed arbitrarily at different times of the day. Complaining has not led anywhere. All standard questions every time you follow up, change in ip address offered, though that as expected has nothing to do with the issue. This time I am reluctant to show the same patience I showed in the past to get issues resolved. TTML connection you mentioned looks like a good option. What kind of technology is that? Land line based or metro-ethernet like Tata Indicom? Also how smooth was your experience with getting the connection, delays in processing etc? Mayuresh From mayuresh at acm.org Sat Mar 16 20:46:53 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:16:53 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <20130316143917.GA25572@SDF.ORG> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> <51358ECC.7020008@mail.com> <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> <20130316143917.GA25572@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <20130317034653.GA3953@SDF.ORG> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 08:09:17PM +0530, Mayuresh wrote: > For last week or so the connection is either going down or is working at > very slow speed arbitrarily at different times of the day. Complaining has > not led anywhere. All standard questions every time you follow up, change > in ip address offered, though that as expected has nothing to do with the > issue. I do not know whether there are other subscribers who face this. But Tata Communications now offers this service for only SMEs. They are either upgrading old customers to newer costlier plans or letting them go so that they can focus only on SMEs. What leads me to feel this way: - There is no agility shown by them in solving the issues for more than 1 week now. This was never the case before. "Server down hai" - the local engineer casually replies, which was never so. - On threatening to close the connection they immediately tell the procedure to do so as if they were expecting this. (Whether to call it arrogance or strategy?) - The refund procedure is well laid out. There is no argument from them like they can't refund prepaid charges etc, neither there is any question like why you want to close. Mayuresh From lug at kums.in Sun Mar 17 20:52:39 2013 From: lug at kums.in (Kumaran R) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:22:39 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Call for Developers - AuShadha Message-ID: Hi Pune GLUG! We (Kumaran and Dr. Easwar) are excited to announce that we have achieved a stable base in AuShadha development. The current development stage of AuShadha has largely been the effort of Dr. Easwar himself. AuShadha is an Open Source Electronic Medical Records (EMR) & Public Health Management System for Small Clinics. It might be even suited for speciality medical practice after some customisation. It is being developed with Python, Django and Dojo. There are many, great Open Source EMRs that are available, but most of them lack a good front-end. The purpose of AuShadha is to provide a state-of-the-art, visually appealing, easy-to-use intuitive front-end interface that is suited for traditional desktop interfaces. This is the first step in creating a polished open-source EMR. Look out for more UI improvements to come in the future. We strongly believe that any open-source project is only as good as its community. To help improve AuShadha beyond the current state, we thought it would be fun to invite anyone who is interested to develop and contribute to it along with us. We would also like AuShadha to benefit from user-inputs and feature requests. To start developing and contributing to AuShadha, please join our mailing-list here . Check out the current state of AuShadha demo here. Follow the project news here . (Facebook) MedFloss page: http://www.medfloss.org/node/806 Git-hub repo: https://github.com/dreaswar/AuShadha Web-site: http://aushadha.org/ With Regards, ~~Kumaran R From tomar.arun at gmail.com Sun Mar 17 21:51:23 2013 From: tomar.arun at gmail.com (Arun Tomar) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:21:23 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] You broadband in Pune In-Reply-To: <20130316143917.GA25572@SDF.ORG> References: <20130304163157.GA4051@SDF.ORG> <51358ECC.7020008@mail.com> <5135D9F7.3060000@gmail.com> <20130316143917.GA25572@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <51469D4B.5000305@gmail.com> On 03/16/2013 08:09 PM, Mayuresh wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 05:11:43PM +0530, Arun Tomar wrote: >> Meanwhile, when my BSNL was down, i took up >> TTML: (2 mbps) works great. good uptime. reliable connection. >> recently they have come up with a truely unlimited plan where there >> is no FUP. > For majority of my several years of usage of Tata Indicom connection I had > good experience of uptime, speed and reliability. > > There have been times some service issues needed escalation and a lot of > patience, though they were eventually resolved. > > For last week or so the connection is either going down or is working at > very slow speed arbitrarily at different times of the day. Complaining has > not led anywhere. All standard questions every time you follow up, change > in ip address offered, though that as expected has nothing to do with the > issue. > > This time I am reluctant to show the same patience I showed in the past to > get issues resolved. > > TTML connection you mentioned looks like a good option. What kind of > technology is that? Land line based or metro-ethernet like Tata Indicom? > Also how smooth was your experience with getting the connection, delays in > processing etc? > > Mayuresh In my experience, tata communications have been responsive till now for the last 6 yrs. didn't had an outage recently, unless the power is down at my location or nearby location. TTML provides a phone line, adsl based internet connection. Arun. From sudhanwa.com at gmail.com Wed Mar 20 03:27:46 2013 From: sudhanwa.com at gmail.com (Sudhanwa Jogalekar) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:57:46 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] M.Sc. CS-FOSS online distance education programme In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FYI. Could be of interest to some pluggies!! - Sudhanwa ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Srinivasan Sundararajan Date: Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM Subject: [ilugd] M.Sc. CS-FOSS online distance education programme To: ILUG-C , The Linux-Delhi mailing list hi all, you might be aware (thru earlier mails sent by Ramadoss) that Anna University is offering M.Sc. (CS-FOSS) 4-semester programme thru distance education mode. The lectures are delivered in online mode on saturdays/sundays and the programme is coordinated through AU-KBC Research Centre, MIT Campus, Chromepet, Anna University Chennai. You can get details about the course curriculum at the "M.Sc. (CS-FOSS)" links the following url : http://au-kbc.org/ Primary Target group : working/non-working persons who have completed B.Sc. Maths/Physics/Comp Science. (though B.E. students have also joined the programme). Course duration : at least 4 semesters, but the students (especially the working persons) are advised to not to take the full load of 5 subjects per semester, but spread it over 6 plus semesters. So far about 100 plus students have registered and attended two batches of this programme. The third batch is about to begin by end April 2013 and the registration is likely to close by 2nd week of April. I would appreciate if you could spread the word about the programme so that students across the country could check it out. For further details, contact me or Prof C N Krishnan or Mr. Senthil Anand (senthils at au-kbc.org> at AU-KBC I am sure FOSS community members will have many queries/comments/suggestions regarding this programme and alternative modes of drawing students into FOSS. We could discuss in the group mail or you could catch me at my personal gmail id. A half-day seminar is being organized at AU-KBC on 27th March (10.00 A.M to 1:00 P.M.). Those interested, especially in and around Chennai could attend the same -- preferably pre-register by contacting AU-KBC. [Since the Arts & Science Colleges in TN are closed, you could help out by forwarding this mail to your acquaintances -- students/staff/alumni-mail groups or give me the contact info so that I could reach out to them.] thanks and best wishes Srinivasan Dr. S. Srinivasan Cell: 94443 02439 Shrini/Raman/Arun Khan/Shakthi/Dr. Gora/Mr. Mani: would be grateful if you could forward this msg to other LUG groups. thanks, Srinivasan. _______________________________________________ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd at lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! President, Wikimedia India www.wikimedia.in web: www.sudhanwa.com blog: www.sudhanwa.in Twitter: sudhanwa Check on FB, Linkedin for more. From mayuresh at acm.org Fri Mar 22 09:57:16 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 22:27:16 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts? Message-ID: <20130322165716.GA4477@SDF.ORG> My internet connection from above ISP is down for more than 10 days now. They are not able to resolve the issue. I have asked for refund. They advise to send an email request for that. I have sent the request at least thrice now and they blatantly claim to have not received any such request. The appellate authority doesn't pick the phone and customer service says they can't provide any other contact numbers. This is a pathetic situation and shear harassment. Can anyone advise any way out? Mayuresh From dnyanraj.mali at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 11:01:08 2013 From: dnyanraj.mali at gmail.com (Dnyanraj Mali) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 23:31:08 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts? In-Reply-To: <20130322165716.GA4477@SDF.ORG> References: <20130322165716.GA4477@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: Just go to tata indicom website, find out Appellate Authority and Zonal Officer/Manager's contact details. write a mail to them keeping customer service in Cc. If this does not work go to TRAI website get mail id for broadband complaints and put them in Cc as well... Both the above mentioned things have worked for me :) Regards, Dnyanraj Nivas Mali On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Mayuresh wrote: > My internet connection from above ISP is down for more than 10 days now. > They are not able to resolve the issue. > > I have asked for refund. They advise to send an email request for that. I > have sent the request at least thrice now and they blatantly claim to have > not received any such request. > > The appellate authority doesn't pick the phone and customer service says > they can't provide any other contact numbers. > > This is a pathetic situation and shear harassment. > > Can anyone advise any way out? > > Mayuresh > > _______________________________________ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List > From darth.chatri at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 11:45:19 2013 From: darth.chatri at gmail.com (darth.chatri at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:45:19 -0700 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts? In-Reply-To: <20130322165716.GA4477@SDF.ORG> References: <20130322165716.GA4477@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <8F11AB96-8378-4C72-AD03-A54AC7E5232C@gmail.com> On 22-Mar-2013, at 9:57 AM, Mayuresh wrote: > My internet connection from above ISP is down for more than 10 days now. > They are not able to resolve the issue. > > I have asked for refund. They advise to send an email request for that. I > have sent the request at least thrice now and they blatantly claim to have > not received any such request. > > The appellate authority doesn't pick the phone and customer service says > they can't provide any other contact numbers. > > This is a pathetic situation and shear harassment. > > Can anyone advise any way out? > Forget it. Dump them. Spread the word that they are rank one as***les. -d From mayuresh at acm.org Fri Mar 22 19:44:44 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:14:44 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook Message-ID: <20130323024444.GA6551@SDF.ORG> I have micromax funbook P500, which does not have a SIM, but supports internet connectivity with USB modem. But I don't find an option to share this connection over wifi. There are apps to do that, but apps don't help. They just give an error message that I should enable tethering first. I have done tethering on other android devices, where I see an option to enable it. Does this mean the manufacturer has disabled tethering? (Why would they do so?) Is there any way to enable it? Mayuresh From stargazer.dave at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 19:49:48 2013 From: stargazer.dave at gmail.com (Nishit Dave) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:19:48 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook In-Reply-To: <20130323024444.GA6551@SDF.ORG> References: <20130323024444.GA6551@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: On 23 Mar 2013 08:15, "Mayuresh" wrote: > > I have micromax funbook P500, which does not have a SIM, but supports > internet connectivity with USB modem. > > But I don't find an option to share this connection over wifi. There are > apps to do that, but apps don't help. They just give an error message that > I should enable tethering first. > > I have done tethering on other android devices, where I see an option to > enable it. > > Does this mean the manufacturer has disabled tethering? (Why would they do > so?) Is there any way to enable it? > > Mayuresh > Does the SoC on your tablet support wifi tethering / hotspot functionality? From mayuresh at acm.org Fri Mar 22 20:38:59 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 09:08:59 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook In-Reply-To: References: <20130323024444.GA6551@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <20130323033859.GA15922@SDF.ORG> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 08:19:48AM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > Does the SoC on your tablet support wifi tethering / hotspot functionality? The product manual doesn't show this feature. How to know whether the hardware does or not? Mayuresh From stargazer.dave at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 21:25:25 2013 From: stargazer.dave at gmail.com (Nishit Dave) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 09:55:25 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook In-Reply-To: <20130323033859.GA15922@SDF.ORG> References: <20130323024444.GA6551@SDF.ORG> <20130323033859.GA15922@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: On 23 Mar 2013 09:09, "Mayuresh" wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 08:19:48AM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > > Does the SoC on your tablet support wifi tethering / hotspot functionality? > The product manual doesn't show this feature. How to know whether the > hardware does or not? > Mayuresh > If you can find out the exact component used, its technical details should be available online. IMHO, it is better to invest in a stand alone hotspot, although you'd need an extra charger to be carried around. From mayuresh at acm.org Fri Mar 22 21:47:29 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:17:29 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook In-Reply-To: References: <20130323024444.GA6551@SDF.ORG> <20130323033859.GA15922@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <20130323044729.GA17042@SDF.ORG> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 09:55:25AM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > IMHO, it is better to invest in a stand alone hotspot, although you'd need > an extra charger to be carried around. I agree. Is there one compatible with Tata Photon? There is one sold by Tata Photon people themselves. Will found out more on that. Unlikely that it will work with BSNL 3G as well. I think it will be vendor locked. Currently I use android phone to tether BSNL 3G. Mayuresh. From stargazer.dave at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 21:58:06 2013 From: stargazer.dave at gmail.com (Nishit Dave) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:28:06 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook In-Reply-To: <20130323044729.GA17042@SDF.ORG> References: <20130323024444.GA6551@SDF.ORG> <20130323033859.GA15922@SDF.ORG> <20130323044729.GA17042@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: On 23 Mar 2013 10:18, "Mayuresh" wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 09:55:25AM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > > IMHO, it is better to invest in a stand alone hotspot, although you'd need > > an extra charger to be carried around. > > I agree. Is there one compatible with Tata Photon? > > There is one sold by Tata Photon people themselves. Will found out more on > that. > > Unlikely that it will work with BSNL 3G as well. I think it will be vendor > locked. Currently I use android phone to tether BSNL 3G. > > Mayuresh. > It's always better to use one that is not locked to one service provider now. There are many options available now as compared to two years ago. From mayuresh at acm.org Sat Mar 23 23:08:31 2013 From: mayuresh at acm.org (Mayuresh) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:38:31 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [Android] Tethering on Micromax funbook In-Reply-To: References: <20130323024444.GA6551@SDF.ORG> <20130323033859.GA15922@SDF.ORG> <20130323044729.GA17042@SDF.ORG> Message-ID: <20130324060831.GA22874@SDF.ORG> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 10:28:06AM +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: > It's always better to use one that is not locked to one service provider > now. There are many options available now as compared to two years ago. http://www.tp-link.in/products/details/?categoryid=218&model=M5350 I find this one good as there is no external modem required. But this is not yet launched in India as per the shops. I'll most probably wait as I can use mobilephone for tethering in the meantime - unless someone can suggest good alternatives. One with battery and internal modem is what I'd prefer, besides small form factor. Mayuresh From nirmalyalahiri at yahoo.com Wed Mar 20 00:04:20 2013 From: nirmalyalahiri at yahoo.com (Nirmalya Lahiri) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PLUG] A serious issue of Amazon Elastic Load Balancer Message-ID: <1363763060.7033.YahooMailNeo@web125905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi all, ?for last few days I am facing problem while configuring ELB at Amazon cloud (EC2). The issue is, I am not getting client IP address while I have configured the ELB listener in Layer 4(TCP) mode in server variable, while I am getting that in Layer 7(HTTP) mode. I need client IP for my application. ?Still ELB has the issue of?SSL/TLS Renegotiation?vulnerability. So, I am not able to use ELB listener in Layer7(HTTP) mode, rather I am using ELB listener in Layer4(TCP) mode and handle the?SSL/TLS Renegotiation?vulnerability through Apache web server. That means...... Mode of Listener ? ?| ?Client IP address ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?| ? ? ??SSL/TLS Renegotiation?vulnerability? ? ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Layer4(TCP) ? ? ? ? ? | ? Not Available ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | ? ? ? ? ?Vulnerability can be overcome Layer7(HTTP) ? ? ? ? | ? ? Available ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? | ? ? ? ? ?Vulnerability can not be overcome I need both the feature(Client IP and Vulnerability overcome). I have written to Amazon support, but till now got very poor support from them. Now I am posting this issue to these list, so that if anyone have any idea to resolve that can share with everyone. Below is the mail that I have written to Amazon support...... --------------------------------------------------- Hi, ?as per the document published at http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ElasticLoadBalancing/latest/DeveloperGuide/elb-listener-config.html .... "When you use TCP for both front-end and back-end connections, your load balancer will forward the request to the back-end instances without modification to the headers." But unfortunately I am not getting IP address of client from the server variable "REMOTE_ADDR" on Layer 4 configuration of ELB. I am getting modified address on that variable. How can I get the actual one? I have no option to create Layer 7 configuration of ELB because still ELB has issue with SSL/TLS Renegotiation. Currently I am handling this issue from ?Apache server of back-end instance. Now I need to know the process to know the IP address of client through Layer 4 configuration of ELB. Without client IP our application will not run properly. I am not able to run the application.? Waiting for prompt reply? .. thanks. --------------------------------------------------- --- Nirmalya Lahiri Mobile: +91-9433113536 VOIP: nirmalyalahiri at sip.linphone.org? From vlead.iiithyd at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 03:14:27 2013 From: vlead.iiithyd at gmail.com (VLEAD IIITHyd) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 15:44:27 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] COMMERCIAL : Job Opportunities at IIIT Hyderabad Message-ID: 1 Opportunities Opportunities for Engineering professionals and interns are *immediately*available. Read on for the details. 2 About Us 2.1 VLEAD VLEAD is the "Virtual Labs Engineering and Architecture Division" of the Virtual Labs project. VLEAD's mandate is to design and architect the implementation framework for Virtual Labs. Virtual Labs is an initiative of the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD), Govt. of India , under the National Mission on Education through ICT. Its goal is to build labs in engineering and sciences accessible over the web for college and university students. Approximately 180 virtual Labs are being built in twelve institutes across the IIT's at Bombay, Delhi, Guwahati, Kanpur, Kharagpur, Madras, Roorkee and NIT Surathkal, College of Engineering Pune, Dayalbagh and Amrita Universities, and IIIT Hyderabad. For more details, please visit *Sakshaat* virtual labs at http://vlab.co.in . We are located at IIIT-H, Gachibowli, Hyderabad but we plan to have some personnel located in IIT Bombay and IIT Delhi. 2.2 VLEAD's role in Virtual Labs The broad role of VLEAD is to form the bedrock of research, systems development and software engineering of the virtual labs. This includes R&D work of designing frameworks to support various aspects of virtual labs like deployment, packaging, distribution, user management, persistence, etc. It also includes engineering the integration of these labs to the frameworks, and finally, supporting those using the labs. VLEAD (earlier called SEVILLE) has already been involved in providing infrastructure and back end engineering services for around 40 teams developing virtual-labs right from the initial days. For this year, this support needs to be scaled up for 180 teams and this requires heavy engineering and framework development. 3 Overview of activities at VLEAD This section illustrates the kind of things we do or will be doing at VLEAD. 3.1 Systems Engineering One of VLEAD's main deliverables will be to provide a cloud of servers for the entire life-cycle of virtual labs, viz., development, testing, hosting and distribution of virtual labs. Technologies, we currently use in the VLEAD systems engineering include Debian GNU/Linux, KVM, Xen, OpenVz, tinydns, Apache, Sqlite, MySQL, iptables, qmail(deepOfix), OpenLDAP(deepOfix), ezmlm(deepOfix), Bash & Python 3.2 Software Engineering VLEAD will design the process of origination of a lab till it is delivered into the vlabs eco-system. There are several APIs present and several more needed for the current growing trend of Virtual labs development. The process keenly follows the principles of SDLC and provides a very efficient software engineering model for the vlabs. The defined process takes care of version control, bug tracker, release mechanism of vlabs. The view of a virtual lab as a software product makes it necessary to employ the above processes and principles of software engineering. Technologies currently used in the software engineering of virtual labs are: Subversion, Ruby on Rails, Redmine, Javascript, Java, C/C++, PHP, HTML5, CSS3, jQuery, and Python 3.3 Document Engineering VLEAD believes in strong documentation principles for future reference and also as a self explanatory notes for the new ones. In VLEAD, every engineering process and decision is documented and archived. At VLEAD, we extensively use free and open source technologies like \LaTeX, Emacs Org Mode, Subversion, Mediawiki, dot (graphviz), GIMP, and Inkscape and also scripts in emacs, python and makefiles to drive the document generation. 3.4 Outreach Engineering Nothing is worth until it is known to others. An important long term goal of VLEAD is to provide all the engineering support needed to evangelise virtual labs at other colleges, encourage the participation of developers and potential users wherever they are. VLEAD will build frameworks for technical support for holding workshops for developers and field trials. Building a community of users and developers is the only way to sustain the virtual labs. 4 VLEAD deliverables for the next one year The main deliverables of VLEAD are: Framework developmentThe virtual labs framework that has partly been built needs to be completed. Integration180 virtual (simulation) labs need to be integrated onto the virtual labs framework that includes an svn server and a project management portal. Each lab is run by a separate team of lab developers located across the country. HostingThe 180 virtual labs need to be hosted on a single cloud platform from a data centre. MirroringThe hosting site is to be mirrored at a location elsewhere in India. 5 Contract Engineering Positions at VLEAD 5.1 Number of Engineering Positions We have engineering positions open for "Project Systems engineers" and "Project Software Engineers" for those interested in any of the following above areas: framework development, integration, hosting and mirroring of Virtual Labs. Depending on the need and the skill set, the person recruited will be placed at an appropriate level of seniority. All the positions are on contract basis. TypeBasic qualificationSkills S/W Engr.BTech/MTech in any discipline,Demonstrably strong background in preferably CS.programming and S/W Engg. Systems Engr.BTech/MTech in any discipline,Strong background in preferably CS.Systems, design, automation and documentation. Linux and or Windows Qualifications may be relaxed for exceptional applicants. 5.2 Internship opportunities Talented and exceptionally motivated students interested in an internship may also apply. They will be paid a student stipend. 5.3 Additional attributes Enthusiastic, self-driven and highly motivatedThe person should be able to take up an ill-defined problem, and deliver something substantial about it. Excellent communication and interpersonal skills The person should be *very* comfortable in writing technical reports, memo's and other documents. The person should enjoy working within a group. FOSSExperienced with the use of FOSS technologies and appreciative of the FOSS philosophy. InitiativeWilling to cheerfully attend to critical tasks at odd times. 6 Salary Salary is negotiable and will be competitive and commensurate with the candidate's qualifications, experience and skills. 7 Perks Since VLEAD will be located on institute campuses, interns and employees will have the following perks: - Opportunity to attend classes (contingent upon instructor permission) and other academic events (seminars and workshops) on campus. - Free hosting for your own website. - Huge real estate (on the web), shell access and backup options :-) - Friday dutch lunches :-) - Music surround system - Table Tennis 8 Procedure for application EmailPlease email to *jobs at virtual-labs.ac.in*with your name on the subject line along with * "Internship" or "Job" *on the subject line. ResumePlease send us a PDF or a url. RefereesWe are interested in the opinion of anyone willing to comment upon your skills and abilities. Please include names of at least one referee in your application. ProjectsPlease include links, if you have them, to any projects that you have contributed or continue to contribute. This would be a big plus for considering you. Coding and/or writing samplesPlease include (as links), if you have them, any samples of code, documentation or technical reports that you have written. From darth.chatri at gmail.com Mon Mar 25 04:33:19 2013 From: darth.chatri at gmail.com (darth.chatri at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:33:19 +0800 Subject: [PLUG] A serious issue of Amazon Elastic Load Balancer In-Reply-To: <1363763060.7033.YahooMailNeo@web125905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1363763060.7033.YahooMailNeo@web125905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure this is the right forum for this question. At the least this deserves an Off-topic (OT) in the subject. -d On 20-Mar-2013, at 3:04 PM, Nirmalya Lahiri wrote: > Hi all, > for last few days I am facing problem while configuring ELB at Amazon cloud (EC2). The issue is, I am not getting client IP address while I have configured the ELB listener in Layer 4(TCP) mode in server variable, while I am getting that in Layer 7(HTTP) mode. I need client IP for my application. > > Still ELB has the issue of SSL/TLS Renegotiation vulnerability. So, I am not able to use ELB listener in Layer7(HTTP) mode, rather I am using ELB listener in Layer4(TCP) mode and handle the SSL/TLS Renegotiation vulnerability through Apache web server. > > That means...... > Mode of Listener | Client IP address | SSL/TLS Renegotiation vulnerability > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Layer4(TCP) | Not Available | Vulnerability can be overcome > Layer7(HTTP) | Available | Vulnerability can not be overcome > > > > I need both the feature(Client IP and Vulnerability overcome). > > > I have written to Amazon support, but till now got very poor support from them. Now I am posting this issue to these list, so that if anyone have any idea to resolve that can share with everyone. > > > Below is the mail that I have written to Amazon support...... > --------------------------------------------------- > Hi, > as per the document published at http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ElasticLoadBalancing/latest/DeveloperGuide/elb-listener-config.html .... > > "When you use TCP for both front-end and back-end connections, your load balancer will forward the request to the back-end instances without modification to the headers." > > But unfortunately I am not getting IP address of client from the server variable "REMOTE_ADDR" on Layer 4 configuration of ELB. I am getting modified address on that variable. How can I get the actual one? > > I have no option to create Layer 7 configuration of ELB because still ELB has issue with SSL/TLS Renegotiation. Currently I am handling this issue from Apache server of back-end instance. > > Now I need to know the process to know the IP address of client through Layer 4 configuration of ELB. Without client IP our application will not run properly. I am not able to run the application. > > Waiting for prompt reply > .. thanks. > --------------------------------------------------- > > > --- > Nirmalya Lahiri > Mobile: +91-9433113536 > VOIP: nirmalyalahiri at sip.linphone.org > > _______________________________________ > Pune GNU/Linux Users Group Mailing List From pravi.a at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 23:09:09 2013 From: pravi.a at gmail.com (Praveen A) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:39:09 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Beautiful explanation of free software development and crowdfunding Message-ID: http://m.techcrunch.com/2013/03/27/crowdfunding-micro-patronage-and-the-future-of-free-software/ Please share this widely if you like it. I have given 100$ to this campaign because I think conversations are a must have in email. You can also contribute even as small as 1$ (around 54 rupees). From ashwin.lists at gmail.com Thu Mar 28 20:54:48 2013 From: ashwin.lists at gmail.com (Ashwin) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:24:48 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] [OT] Tata Communications broadband - escalation contacts? In-Reply-To: <8F11AB96-8378-4C72-AD03-A54AC7E5232C@gmail.com> References: <20130322165716.GA4477@SDF.ORG> <8F11AB96-8378-4C72-AD03-A54AC7E5232C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <51551088.1010007@gmail.com> On 23-03-2013 00:15, darth.chatri at gmail.com wrote: > > On 22-Mar-2013, at 9:57 AM, Mayuresh wrote: > >> My internet connection from above ISP is down for more than 10 days now. >> They are not able to resolve the issue. >> >> I have asked for refund. They advise to send an email request for that. I >> have sent the request at least thrice now and they blatantly claim to have >> not received any such request. >> >> The appellate authority doesn't pick the phone and customer service says >> they can't provide any other contact numbers. >> >> This is a pathetic situation and shear harassment. >> >> Can anyone advise any way out? >> > Forget it. Dump them. Spread the word that they are rank one as***les. +1 for this advice. And sometimes I hear TATA is a wonderful group and takes care of the country and its customers and has a CSR etc ..... Is that really true? ;) with Regards, Ashwin From total.sniper at gmail.com Sat Mar 30 10:14:09 2013 From: total.sniper at gmail.com (Nehal Tanna) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 22:44:09 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Google Summer Of Code Message-ID: Hi All, I am Nehal Tanna, pursuing MSc(CA) from SICSR. Currently I'm in last sem of academic. As you know Google Summer Of Code 2013 has been announced. I would like to participate this time. Can anyone please suggest me any contact person who is associated with this event or a part of participating mentioning organisation? I would like to contribute to any open source project by being a part of this event. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks & Regards, Nehal Tanna From pravi.a at gmail.com Fri Mar 29 11:10:13 2013 From: pravi.a at gmail.com (Praveen Arimbrathodiyil) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:15:13 +0005 Subject: [PLUG] Future of lugs/fsugs Message-ID: <5155d8af.a269440a.798e.fffff66f@mx.google.com> May be because the new users already get support on the internet and they don't need a lug to help them.? In place of lugs we have at least some developer communities coming up, kde india and debian India, I know of.? We have to move ahead of user support to more of code contributions and for non-techie people, we should focus on philosophy, free knowledge/wikipedia, free culture, mapping, localization etc.? We have to build new communities where lugs and fsugs left us. We have to think about our current challenges like drm, patents, hardware drivers, communication infrastructures like our own diaspora pod etc and come together as communities to solve them. http://fosscommunity.in is such an initiative - going beyond user groups. Started as a comment to https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2485214? From pravi.a at gmail.com Fri Mar 29 21:25:37 2013 From: pravi.a at gmail.com (Praveen A) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:55:37 +0530 Subject: [PLUG] Save Poddery.com campaign - looking for interested people Message-ID: Hi, I hope you all know about diaspora project to create a decentralized social network where users have privacy and control over their personal data. So far we have got the code in pretty good shape (basic features like sharing status, photos, hash tags and private messages are there). We still need to add some features like groups, events, albums, native apps for mobile phones etc to compete with the popular social networks there. Since there is no business interest in such an idea we are depending on people like you for everything (the project was started with direct financial contributions from people around the world and it is still run from people's contributions). The best contribution you can give is using it, because a social network is meaningless without people using it. You could either wait for your friends who may not care about privacy and freedoms to join or you can start using it right now like so many people around the world and make it compelling for your friends to join. You decide which is more likely and more important to you. So that was a brief introduction about the diaspora project. This mail is in particular to introduce a new campaign we are starting to save an early diaspora pod (a pod is a server running diaspora software) poddery.com its current admin wants to stop running this service and a few of us from diaspora community is coming out to keep this service running at poddery.comwe are going to run a fund raising campaign to raise enough funds to run it for an year on a good vps. You can also join us and help us. Are you good at promoting ideas? Can you write well? Are you a good designer? Can you design posters? Can you design a website? Can you shoot video? Can you edit video? Or simply can you share the news among your friends using any methods available to you? If you are interested get in touch with us on community mailing list at http://lists.fosscommunity.in we'll be meeting tonight at 10pm on irc to discuss the plan. So drop in if you want to join in or have some questions channel is #fosscommunity.in and server is irc.freenode.net if you are new to irc, you can access it via your web browser at http://webchat.freenode.net Note 1: there are other ways to contribute too like packaging diaspora for debian, fedora etc let me know if you are interested. We meet every Sunday at 8pm on #debian-diaspora on irc.oftc.net for people new to irc, use mibbit.com Note 2: if you are interested to contribute code directly, let me know too. Diaspora is built on ruby on rails framework. If there is some interest, we can organize workshops too.