[PLUG] Proposal for change from the current state of the list.

Mandar Vaze / मंदार वझे mandarvaze at gmail.com
Wed Jan 23 11:21:53 IST 2013

The reaction seems like "You asked for it, you are getting it. Don't blame
us for it." ("it" indicates spam)
Specific comments follow :

1. All the users moderation flag (that is currently set) to be
> removed.

I'm assuming these users were put under moderation for a reason.

Any new member joining the list will not get a moderation
> flag set.


Typically, new users are put under moderation till their first post is
This is general practice - helps prevent spam.

> 2. All the current filters to be removed and started from scratch. Let
> us use the list of filters from Arun Khan's mail to start of the new
> filters list.

I assume the new filters will be in place as soon as old filters are
removed, and there won't be gap of "days" between the too.
"No filter" mailing list mean LOTS of spam (Refer to my first comment)

> 3. Any change (add/delete/modify) of filter and add/remove moderation
> flag for a list member and removing of any list member is to be done
> by voting. 15 votes in favour of the proposal required for approval.
> (eg. 20 votes in favour and 5 negative votes is OK)

Is there cutoff time ? What if you get 14 votes "soon enough" and no 15th
vote for 2 months ?
Will you keep waiting indefinitely ?

I think members trust moderators to make the right decision, especially
when removing/deleting a user

4. There will be moderator/s but they will act only once in a week.

This is considering that there will be hardly anything in moderation
> and there will be less filters applicable.

This makes sense only if the list of "open for all" (including spammers)
Which I don;t think any members want.
I suggest there will be a "pool" of moderators, they "approve/delete"
messages from the queue as and when possible.

> Moderators identities will not be disclosed.


> 6. Considering the above, it will be decided on the list itself if the
> list is to be declared moderated or un-moderated.

This hardly matters (to the users)


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